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Julian dEntremont
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Posted: Thu Nov 20th, 2008 08:16 pm |
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Hi I'm an new member and am starting out with a project gun. it needs a lot of work and to have a new butt stock. the one that is on it now is broken and the butt plate was changed years ago to a soft one. How can i tell what frame size i have and where is the best place to get an original or a (best) reproduction? any help will be appreciated.
ps. it has a miller trigger..is that a good thing or a bad? i personally think it's good for shooting anyway.
cheersLast edited on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 08:17 pm by Julian dEntremont
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scott kittredge
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Posted: Thu Nov 20th, 2008 08:19 pm |
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| hi, should be a number stamped on the bottom of the barrel lug. should be a 0 or a 1 on it.that should be your frame size. scott
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Julian dEntremont
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Posted: Thu Nov 20th, 2008 08:27 pm |
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| yep it's an 0, an best place to get butt plates? and does the size dictate what caption...ie 2 dogs or a grouse or whatever is on it? i'd prefer to get whatever would have been original.
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Posted: Thu Nov 20th, 2008 09:06 pm |
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Your frame size is stamped on the bottom of the barrel lug and is most likely a 0 frame. The vast majority of 20 ga. Parkers were made on a 0 frame but a 1 frame is possible and there are a few known 2 frame twenties.
As far as a replacement stock is concerned, there are used ones out there but getting a good fit may be difficult and if you have the funds you may be better off having one made that will fit both the gun and you.
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Jay Gardner
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Posted: Fri Nov 21st, 2008 02:23 pm |
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Tony Galazan has a 20 ga V grade PG stock on his website.
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Julian dEntremont
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Posted: Fri Nov 21st, 2008 04:40 pm |
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Thanks for that, do you have his website by chance? i googled him and found a lot of articles but not his site unless it's http://www.connecticutshotgun.com/ and i can't find it on that site
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Posted: Fri Nov 21st, 2008 09:36 pm |
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| Try this: http://www.csmcspecials.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=S79
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Posted: Fri Nov 21st, 2008 09:59 pm |
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Julian,
You didn't ask but your gun was originally sold by Von Lengerke & Detmold in 1922. It weighed 5 lbs 10 oz and cost the fellow all of $42 back then. Compliments of Griffin & Howe Research.
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Julian dEntremont
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Posted: Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 03:20 pm |
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Thanks for the link Jay and for the information Robert. is there more information out there?
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Posted: Mon Nov 24th, 2008 12:20 am |
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| Julian, are you or your family from Lower West Pubnico by any chance? The fierce gunners of the world. (They pronounce that fee-ass gunnahs, and it's true.)
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Julian dEntremont
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Posted: Mon Nov 24th, 2008 11:54 am |
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Holy S@#$. i really didn't expect someone from this site to know that. yea my dad is from Lower West Pubnico, I grew up just outside of Yarmouth which is 1/2 hour away. We are indeed that... a bunch of hunters. My dad is an upland guide (takes his vacation and guides for a few weeks every year) in Nova Scotia. Woodcock, grouse and pheasant, and i hope to do the same; it would be a great pass-time when i get older. We certainly have some of the best natural upland hunting in the world in my opinion. Where are you from and how do you know of Pubnico  ?
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Posted: Mon Nov 24th, 2008 12:38 pm |
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| Best people in the world are the D'Entremonts of the Pubnicos. Made a CBC film there on the Little River Duck Dog---later the Nova Scotia Duck Toller, for those on the board---more than 50 years ago. No lodging thereabouts then and stayed with a D'Entremont, The Singer Sewing Machine salesman and his wife, close to the church. I'm at South Side Antigonish Harbour. Kind regards, King
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Posted: Mon Nov 24th, 2008 01:45 pm |
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Hi King pleasure to meet. i drove through Antigonish Saturday night, we were in Cape Breton this weekend. quite a snow event to come home to in Halifax (i live there now), it was one of those times when a double driveway is not a bonus.
I met a older guy in Halifax last week that is originally from Yarmouth as well. He has one of the best gun collections i have even heard of and has had 15 parkers in his life. he has sold most but has kept some of the best. i bought a perfect condition Winchester 101 20 from him last week and am looking forward to trying it on a few birds this weekend; we are heading to the Valley Pheasant hunting.
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Posted: Mon Nov 24th, 2008 03:35 pm |
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| And I have that little DHE 20ga that came from Mrs Howard from Halifax. Always looking for further information about her. King, I think you said the Howards were a shipping family and her husband may have been a physician. Attached Image (viewed 156 times):
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Posted: Mon Nov 24th, 2008 04:33 pm |
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Bruce, I gave up looking for more because of a post indicating that you had found the source. My Howard came to a dead-end. You may PM me with any clues so that I can try to pick up another line to pursue.
Julian, I was poking around Yarmouth Museum photo archives some time ago for our distinguished contributor Destry Hoffard. Next time you're in home country look under photos hunting and tollers.
There's interesting stuff there of a time 70-100 or so years ago when all the well-heeled gunners from the Boston States came for the deer and ducks and woodcock hunting from their summer homes.
The Yarmouth Armstrongs were really prominent sportsmen but I think that line died out. The mansions of the Americans around Lake Annis are still there, with stone gates and lanes like Tara of Gone with the Wind.
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Posted: Tue Nov 25th, 2008 01:32 am |
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| Ha ha. weekend before last we went to a covert in lake Annis right across from the old estates, it is a staple in our woodcock tour. We shot 2 grouse and saw two woodcock (missed them)in that covert we call it the Sweeney Covert. Dad has two English Setters he got in Mass. beautiful dogs, i haven't seen another breed that can match them for patience and quality points. you can sit down and have lunch while the dogs are pointing a woodcock...literally. i will certainly go check out the museum pictures, the area does have a rich heritage of wealthy sea captains and merchants with rich American summer homes. i think there are still some Armstrongs in the area, i recall a doctor a few years ago but i can't be sure. Last edited on Tue Nov 25th, 2008 01:34 am by Julian dEntremont
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