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Russ Jackson
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Posted: Sat Aug 16th, 2008 05:00 pm |
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Hello gentlemen; I am interested if anyone has ever had a double trigger installed on a single trigger, Repro. gun, and if so who did you have do the work , and is it more expensive than what it is worth ?
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Dave Fuller
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Posted: Sat Aug 16th, 2008 05:08 pm |
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| It may well be cheaper (and less risky) to sell the gun and buy one with DT. Even after you pay the spread for selling at wholesale and buying at retail. Heck, you might even find someone who wants to trade. There are guys like me out there that prefer the ST.
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Posted: Sat Aug 16th, 2008 05:10 pm |
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| As Dave says it is much cheaper to find another gun. Eric
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Russ Jackson
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Posted: Sat Aug 16th, 2008 05:19 pm |
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Dave; I have to be honest here, I don't actually own the repro. here in question, I just wondered if it could be done and if it was cost effective, and I do agree that there are alot of people that do like the single triggers,I like the look of the double triggers better and if I do get a long flush and the gun I am carrying is choked open and full ,generally I can think fast enough to grab the rear trigger, but never was sharp enough to work the barrel selector !
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Bill Murphy
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Posted: Sat Aug 16th, 2008 07:59 pm |
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| Russ, where would we get the parts to do this conversion? If you know, let us know, because right now a double trigger 28 is probably worth about $1500 more than a single trigger gun. It may be worth doing the conversion if it were done with factory parts.
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Russ Jackson
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Posted: Sat Aug 16th, 2008 09:04 pm |
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Bill; I guess that would be a very good question, I figured some of the bigger restoration shops may have some trigger assemblies,would original parker triggers work ?
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Bill Murphy
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Posted: Sat Aug 16th, 2008 09:05 pm |
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| I don't know, but would it be an invisible conversion?
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Russ Jackson
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Posted: Sat Aug 16th, 2008 09:19 pm |
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Bill; I am not sure I follow you, but if you mean would I have a conversion done and pass it off as an original double trigger gun, Absolutely not ! What I was thinking is ,I have been looking for a decent shooter D grade 20, the prices on the originals have climbed so fast,for just average guns ! I found a very nice Repro 20, for a good price for hunting ,but I would like it to have double triggers, if I were to purchase it I was interested before I bought the gun if the conversion could be made and if it could ,would it be cost effective for me !
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Bill Murphy
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Posted: Sat Aug 16th, 2008 09:23 pm |
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| If you could buy the Repro for a low enough price, it may be worth it. Original PB parts may be easier to find than Repro parts. I would like to see such a conversion.
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Russ Jackson
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Posted: Sat Aug 16th, 2008 09:29 pm |
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Bill ; I take it up to this point in time ,you know of no one that has attempted it, Im suprised because there doesn't seem to be alot of double trigger guns available,and I'm confident I am not the only one to think of it ,maybe just the only one dumb enough to voice it !Seems as it might work if you could find the parts?
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Posted: Sun Aug 17th, 2008 01:23 am |
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I still think someone some where has some of the repro parts. I know the ware house storing them burned, but i have looked after a lot of property that has burned and a lot more than you think can be used. No one has definately said what happened after this fire to what was left.
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Posted: Sun Aug 17th, 2008 02:32 am |
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| My understanding is that it wasn't a fire at all, but rather a flood. For liability reasons all the spare parts in the warehouse were destroyed is what I've heard.
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Posted: Sun Aug 17th, 2008 03:19 am |
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When the repro was still being produced, I inquired about the single trigger, and was told it was that of the Winchester 101 O/U. I think the answer is to remove the trigger plate and take a look. If the sear assembly appears to be standard Parker, a Parker trigger assembly may drop right in. This should be easy; any trigger assembly of the same frame size can be substituted and tried.
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Russ Jackson
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Posted: Sun Aug 17th, 2008 05:16 am |
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I was out for the evening,and just got back in and doing a little catching up, I still can't believe that of all the guys that own Repros. that no one seems to have tried this !Maybe everyone is happy with thier guns just the way they are !
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Posted: Sun Aug 17th, 2008 01:12 pm |
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A few years back I also wanted to convert a single trigger 12 gauge. The 12-s are really scarce in repro's. I found a gun smith that offered this conversion by adding a second trigger to the existing trigger group. He claimed he could do it, it can be done...The auto safty feature will no longer funktion. About 200.00 at that time. (posible hack job) I droped that idea. A comlpete factory conversion will require lots of parts, a new butt stock inleted for 2 triggers as a single trigger stock is different. Your answer to the quetion....its mutch cheaper to buy a double trigger repro. I have collected a full set of double trigger repro's....it took several years and $$$$ The good thing is they will always be worth the investment origanly made and more. My estamation, repro's have increased 33% in the last 10 years and this year alone has seen some big new asking prices, up 20% from last year on average. My advice...if you realy want it ....now is the time. Pay todays price and be happy! Next year todays 4000.00 and up repro's will be 5000.00 and up repro's. Today gun broker has a repro 20, double trigger P.G-S.F 26" still bidding under 3500.00 with the best wood you will see. I would say it could sell under 4000.00 as the summer market can be soft. It has a 4 days left....thanks all Kenny Graft in sunny Ohio 
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Posted: Sun Aug 17th, 2008 01:56 pm |
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Russ, I too only wanted double triggers. I called Reagent Chemical a couple of years ago and asked about conversion (I talked to a Skeuse but I don't remember which one). I was told to forget it! As Kenny said, it would require a different or machined trigger plate and major stock problems. I kept looking and finally found a double trigger, PG/BT 28 ga. that I love! Lately it seems easier to find DT 28s than 20s. Must be because the 28s sell for so much more $.
Joe Bernfeld
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Russ Jackson
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Posted: Sun Aug 17th, 2008 05:08 pm |
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To all of you fellows that had thoughts on this matter, Thank You all, it is apparant that even if you had access to parts, it would still be quite a job! Kenny , I will take a look at Gun Broker, thanks for the tip ! Russ
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Posted: Sun Aug 17th, 2008 08:16 pm |
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| A friend has a Grade 5 NID that was converted to double triggers and Russ Ruppel used to do it. I don't think it's rocket science, but it may be difficult to do if it has to look absolutely original.
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Trigg Davis
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Posted: Tue Aug 19th, 2008 09:15 pm |
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Russ,
I meant to send a pm and somehow got this on the forum by mistake so i am deleting most of it.
Triigg
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Russ Jackson
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Posted: Tue Aug 19th, 2008 09:29 pm |
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Trigg: please check your PM's; Russ
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