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E Robert Fabian
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Posted: Sun Aug 10th, 2008 10:13 pm |
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I'm interested in owning a 10 ga. but wasn't looking for one right know. I got a chance to look at this one yesterday and would like to get a few opinions on how common are they in this condition, lots of case very good wood ,very good bores, comes up nice, under 10 lbs. 3" chambers, #5 frame, nice pattern on barrels. Its for sale for 2200.00. I'll try and post a picture
Thanks for the input Bob
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E Robert Fabian
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Posted: Sun Aug 10th, 2008 10:18 pm |
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Bill Murphy
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Posted: Sun Aug 10th, 2008 10:37 pm |
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| I would like to measure the firing pin separation before I believed it was a real #5 frame. I would consider paying that price for a standard #3 frame gun in the pictured condition. Can you access a picture of the frame number marking?
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E Robert Fabian
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Posted: Sun Aug 10th, 2008 10:52 pm |
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| Bill, could you tell me what the firing pin separation should be ?
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Bruce Day
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Posted: Mon Aug 11th, 2008 12:54 am |
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A No. 5 frame 10 ga , under 10lbs, that must be the only one ever produced then.
I suspect its a standard 2 7/8" chamber 10ga No. 3 frame. Very decent gun and there are a bunch of them around for the waterfowl shooter. If there is decent choke in the barrels and you buy those expensive heavy non tox shells this gun will be perfect for pass shooting.
Last edited on Mon Aug 11th, 2008 12:55 am by Bruce Day
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Don Kaas
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Posted: Mon Aug 11th, 2008 01:12 am |
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| I called Cabela's Scarborough, ME store the other day and asked them. The person I spoke to was a little uncommittal. <10 lbs for a #5 frame does seem a bit light. My #4 weighs 12 lbs. Last edited on Mon Aug 11th, 2008 01:20 am by Don Kaas
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Posted: Mon Aug 11th, 2008 02:13 am |
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| As did mine, Herr Kaas (12 lbs 5 oz. to be exact), but the Grade 5 designation put me way over the edge and I punched the "Buy Now" button muy pronto! KBM
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Posted: Mon Aug 11th, 2008 02:22 am |
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One cannot be precise examining a single photo but the relation of barrel/frame depth suggests this may be the more common three frame 10ga NH
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Posted: Mon Aug 11th, 2008 02:27 am |
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| I think my #3 frame 32" weighs 9-13. The 1929 catalog lists 10 gauges as 8-1/2 to 10-1/2 lbs.
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Posted: Mon Aug 11th, 2008 03:36 am |
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| I dare say that "3" on the underlug was lightly struck and has been dinged just enough that it looks like a "5". Just my $.02. I have a 1 1/2 frame DH that at first glance it appears to be a "1", but when you tilt the barrels in the light the veryfaint 1/2 comes into view.
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Posted: Mon Aug 11th, 2008 02:34 pm |
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| Kevin-I just got my recent Cabela's find, the grade 2 #3 frame toplever 10 gauge with the added 3 1/2" Magnum Belgian fluid barrels back from the stocker. I had a straight grip done in what looked in the blank like a modest crotch figured piece o' black walnut. Wow! did the figure open up on both sides of the stock when it was cut. Weighing a trim 9 lbs, I think this will be my goose whacker for a while.
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Posted: Mon Aug 11th, 2008 09:50 pm |
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| The three frame pin separation should be 1 3/16". The five frame pin separation should be 1 5/16". The three frame is the most common NH Grade ten. Hammer guns are often made in #4 frame and usually weigh from ten to twelve pounds. Neither hammer or hammerless guns are commonly seen in #5 frame. It would be a rare gun indeed.
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E Robert Fabian
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Posted: Tue Aug 12th, 2008 02:52 am |
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Thanks Bill, I looked at gun again today and it was a 3 frame. I brought a couple of trade guns with me and and it came home with me. Its a 1890 gun with very little honest wear.
Bob
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Posted: Tue Aug 12th, 2008 02:35 pm |
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| You'll have fun with it, Bob. Just the thing for whacking a blackie over a New Hampshire beaver pond.
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Posted: Wed Aug 13th, 2008 12:47 am |
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| Since 10 ga is being discussed here, I am wondering where one can find reloading info and components for the 2 7/8" shells. Thanks for any info.
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Posted: Wed Aug 13th, 2008 02:10 am |
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| Sherman Bell has very good recipes in his DGJ articles, Lyman's early reloading manual have numerous short ten loads (easily found for sale on the 'net). Ballistic Products and Precision Reloading have components. Buy 3 1/2" cases and cut them down. Last edited on Wed Aug 13th, 2008 02:12 am by Don Kaas
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E Robert Fabian
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Posted: Wed Aug 13th, 2008 02:21 am |
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Thanks Don, I'm looking forward to laying in the corn stubble and a flock of long necks coming in. I have to get set up for reloading the ten also. I'll look into your suggestions.
Bob
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E Robert Fabian
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Posted: Thu Aug 14th, 2008 01:29 pm |
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| After a few hours of cleaning with Ballistol and a litle elbow grease. Attached Image (viewed 244 times):
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Posted: Thu Aug 14th, 2008 02:16 pm |
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Bob, please tell me about Ballistol, what it is and where to get it.
Thanks, Dean
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Harry Collins
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Posted: Thu Aug 14th, 2008 02:27 pm |
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Bob,
There was a good discussion on loading the "10" awhile back. Go to "search" at the top of the page and enter "10 bore help". I may have Sherman Bell's data I could send if you like.
Harry
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