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R. G. Blazier Member
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Posted: Tue Jul 29th, 2008 12:18 am |
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Hunting fools really just big game mostly. Noone's ever caught the bird flu in our family.
We live right in the middle of big game paradise. Lots of birds I guess too. Anyways, gun is too dang pretty to take out. It's always been put away.
What do you mean 3" is a start?
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Destry Hoffard PGCA Member

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Posted: Tue Jul 29th, 2008 12:41 am |
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I just mean that true factory 3 inch chamber Parker shotguns are pretty scarce. It's a nice gun, shame nobody in the family hunts with it.
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Richard Flanders PGCA Member

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Posted: Tue Jul 29th, 2008 12:42 am |
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What he means is that it came from the factory with 3" chambers(pretty rare) so is not modified. That truly is good news WRT value. It looks like a gorgeous and relatively rare gun and has very significant value. What a beauty.
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Posted: Tue Jul 29th, 2008 12:44 am |
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Destry; I gave Ed your last box of 10ga shells the other day. Wrapped them well and he will deliver them to you at some point.
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Destry Hoffard PGCA Member

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Posted: Tue Jul 29th, 2008 01:23 am |
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Them 10 gauge shells are gonna be well traveled. *wink*
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Posted: Tue Jul 29th, 2008 04:07 am |
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Roger that. And a box full of beautiful old green Remington paper shells it is.... and I didn't even keep one for my collection! They are truly mint and look like they were made yesterday.
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Bill Murphy PGCA Member
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Posted: Tue Jul 29th, 2008 01:10 pm |
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| Yup, a factory 3" Remington era Parker is a very rare gun.
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R. G. Blazier Member
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Posted: Tue Jul 29th, 2008 03:16 pm |
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So it's a rare gun. That's kind of neat I guess but it does not help me with the insurance question. Do you guys recommend the services of Cabelas' gun library?
I have access to a Cabelas, it's 60 miles away but doable.
I'm curious about the marks after the ser. no. It's a p followed by an N. Then a heart. Any ideas?
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Dean Romig PGCA Member
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Posted: Tue Jul 29th, 2008 04:11 pm |
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If it is only an insurance estimate you want, I guess Cabela's is the place to go to get a hugely inflated value (but that may only be on a gun they are trying to sell, from my observations) Conversely, if you were attempting to get a value and they had any inkling that they might be buying it you should expect to receive a deflated value. 
The markings? I have no idea.
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R. G. Blazier Member
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Posted: Tue Jul 29th, 2008 06:27 pm |
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Thank you Dean. That makes sense as far as Cabelas goes. I can assure you though, that the gun is not for sale.
My Dad has had it for the past 42 years. It was always assumed that after his passing it would be mine. Well a sister ended up with it instead. Being as how she's busy getting her Doctorate and has never shot a gun period, I'm " storing" it.
Destry brings up a good point, why not shoot it? Maybe we'll chase a few roosters this fall. It would be a blast to take it out this winter and do a turkey shoot out at the clay range. I'll bet it would turn some heads for sure.
Does anyone have an estimate as far as replacement value? Are these in the Shooters Bible as far as values?
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Posted: Tue Jul 29th, 2008 08:17 pm |
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| I'll take a random shot at it at around $8k - more if the condition is better than we can see.
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Patrick Lien Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 2nd, 2008 05:19 am |
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R. G. Blazier wrote:
I have access to a Cabelas, it's 60 miles away but doable.
Well if your 60 miles from the Post Falls Cabela's then we are practically neighbors. I live in Lewiston. I have few Parkers similiar to your gun and I have all the good books on the subject. If you find yourself in my area then bring the gun and we can figure out;
A. How much I would pay for it. 
B. How much it is really worth. 
Patrick Lien
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Posted: Sat Aug 2nd, 2008 01:58 pm |
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Thanks for the offer Patrick!
I'm actually in Weiser. 60 MI. is the Boise Cabelas.
If you are ever heading this way please stop by and take a look. I'll drop you a pm with contact info.
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Posted: Sat Aug 9th, 2008 04:43 am |
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| R.G. Does your gun have the word Miller stamped on the side of the trigger. I have late Remington guns with both Miller, and two screw Remington triggers. Your gun looks as if it has A Miller trigger????MAYBE. A lot of gunners here in Idaho ordered 3" guns to hunt Pheasants, Sage Grouse, and late season Chukars. Over here in Idaho Falls there is a VHE late Remington gun marked "for 3"shells" just like yours. I have encountered several old V grade 2 framed Parkers with chambers extended to three inch here in this area. These guns were all working guns, and used on wild birds. At one time you had a good number of Pheasants and Sage Grouse in your area, and I will bet your old gun has bagged a few, for it certainly looks to be a business like gun. Like Destry said, I would take the old girl to the dance. David Lien Last edited on Sun Aug 10th, 2008 03:54 pm by David Lien
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Posted: Sat Aug 9th, 2008 12:49 pm |
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Dave,
I can't see the word Miller anywhere on the trigger, I can see what looks like a 50 maybe?
Patrick is supposed to stop by one of these days and I'd imagine that we'll get this piece figured out. You would be more than welcome to take a look at it also if you ever get up to Weiser.
I do enjoy talking about treasures. This shotgun thing is new to me, I'm really into handmade knives of Idaho. You'd be amazed about how many craftsmen there are in this state.
As far as taking the ol' girl dancing, I think she's going to go after a few roosters this year!
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Posted: Mon Aug 11th, 2008 07:23 am |
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R. G. Its is best for your gun to have the remington 2 screw trigger. It was hard for this old fellow to tell from the picture. I hear that you still have a few wild roosters around Weiser go get-um .
I find your interest in Idaho handmade knives interesting. In 1964 I left a "Bernard Sparks folder" stuck in a tree after field dresing an elk. I relized my knife was still in the tree after I returned to camp. It was late afternoon and I mounted up on my Pal Cecile's saddle mule and went the two miles back up the mountian to retrieve that Sparks folder. It started to snow, and the mule took the wrong turn comming down the hill and I did not get back to camp untill way late at night. Sparks knives were not common and "spendy" at that time, so the late night trip was worth the effort. Bernard Sparks lives in the Bear Lake bottoms (southern Idaho) and at that time was just about the best knife craftsman I had ever seen, as there were very few people making good folders in thoes days. He would also repair your XX case and other large folders if he liked you. He was also a good trapper, and a good archer. I do not know if he is on your radar for good knife makers, if not he should be. If your Sparks knife was sharp you could get through a lot of Elk without without needing to sharpen. I do not know if Bernard makes many knives these days, as he is like me getting kind-a ancient. On our last visit he said he was making sleds for ice racing on Bear Lake. David Lien
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Posted: Wed Aug 13th, 2008 03:59 pm |
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| From shaping of the trigger in the photo, it looks a lot like a Miller single trigger rather than a Parker factory trigger. It appears to have a rocker selector in front of the trigger, if so it is likely a Miller.
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Posted: Wed Aug 13th, 2008 05:37 pm |
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| It looks like a Miller as Don said. The other (left) side should be stamped MILLER possibly partially hidden up under the trigger plate.
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Posted: Wed Aug 13th, 2008 05:46 pm |
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| Miller's are often not stamped or have had the stampings polished off. I have a 1902 DH "pigeon" gun, a Grade 3 Titanic top lever, a 1893 Purdey pigeon gun and a factory flatside vent rib M21, all with Miller style single triggers.
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